I’m doing some research for a family friend who is the daughter of John William Hargreaves (one of your dad’s crew) at the time of the incident in Denmark. The family returned to Australia in 1912 and Sidney began training in livestock on a station in New South Wales. Many Thanks! Church burial records are stored in THEKEEP@EASTSUSSEX.GOV.UK and I would love to go there, but I am 83 and living in a small corner of Texas and my traveling days are over, so that is not going to happen. JG3 in the English Channel pilot Hptm Willi Hopp I could copy across some photos if you think this is the one? hanging from the bushes. A second request concerns a crash site perhaps 1½ miles away at Old Surrey Hall quite close to East Grinstead where a Lancaster crashed. Best regards Keith. Hi Barry, many thanks for making contact. Says the aircraft crashed on fire and was completely smashed. Sorry, I have not been able to identify this crash, I’m afraid. I have a wing flap off a Messasmit 109 or I believe an Avalon ! Good weather allowed the spectators on the ground to watch as the following events unfolded. Thank you William Baker. HI Ian, no its the Bf-110 from Erpro210 flown by Walter Rubensdorffer (something of a bomber celebrity and CO of the specialist unit. Ian, that section of Ordnance Survey map caused me palpitations! Hats off to Ian for making the initial suggestion. Bomber crash in the village of Wellington Heath in Herefordshire in 1942-43. was flattened one night.He remembers collecting bits of metal possibly shrapnel from the streets around for days afterwards) Many thanks John, Hi John, I will take a look in the books I have and get back to you. So wonder if you might be able to assist. I suppose those young German lads either got taken back home or were interred at Cannock Chase. Hi John, sorry for the late reply. Pat Short was the father of a school chum of mine, Tony Short. Hi Guys.. With all best regards. Sad to read of your mum’s recent passing. Two Years to Stop the Spread - Australia to Shut Borders Until 2022 Despite Vaccine. – in Gothic script, which I thought was a nice touch. Do please let me know how you get on, be good to add a photo here or a link to your site if you add it there for anyone else searching for it. I will take a look but it’s not my neck of the woods really. Hi meg,I wonder if it’s the same incident as my father remembers ? Looking for information on Sergeant Walter Thompson service number 1066764 died 5th June 1942 buried in Bergen General Cemetery. There were so many terrible tragedies during those months… I could not believe my eyes at some of the ‘acounts’ of the battle that I saw at the Museum… at ” Hawkinge ” Lastly my Friend who accompanied me Think’s that he saw the Engine on display of the plane that had shot the bf109 down which had itself been attacked four days later over kent and come down taking a young British Pilot to his death … How sad that – if so – Both Engins of both planes sit close to each other at the Battle of Britain Museum todaay 75 years on.. Kind regards Ray Hill. I was serving as a wren air mechanic at RNAS Donibristlein the summer of 1944 when I witnessed aplane , possibly a Barracuda It could be Ju88 L1 + BM which was shot down at Hazeley Down at Twyford at 1800 on 15 August 1940 by a fighter of 601 squadron (at the time they were flying Hurricanes though one forum entry on line mentions the Ju88 being shot down by a Spitfire). Locals are said to remember the captured aircrew in the village and subsequent removal of the aircraft. I did contact a Litlington Church administrator a few years back and he said that the young daughter of the vicar at the time (1940?) I live approximately a mile from where the Lancaster your uncle was flying crashed. I did not see anything like a machine gun! He lists a specific V1 downed in Mountfield on 17/6/44 23.58hrs Southover Estate – Cottage demolished 2 seriously injured 3 lightly. over the years think of them when i walk that way . They have a monument stone to the crew that died but its not where it crashed. Will take a look at what I have in my books, get back to you if I find anything. Hello He seems to think the crash was at Heath-croft Road Sunbury, by the Post office. Main thing I know of Croydon was the KLM air disaster. The German pilot and at least one other member of his crew had been killed by machine gun fire from the Mosquito. On 22 August 4 unidentified Germans were buried in Chartham cemetery, near Manston, Kent. Hi Guys I was led to believe that the wreckage was all buried on site so it should still all be there including the engines as the excavation was stopped before anything was removed. As well as keeping me entertained down the village pub with stories of his own WW2 exploits he would also tell some stories about his dad’s WW1 experiences & whilst telling one of those he let it slip that his dad had been put in charge of an AA battery somewhere near Lympne during WW2. And uncanny that the engine is in the RAF Battle of Britain museum, it was almost like your mother was meant to be there giving the pilot his last comforts, wonderful to hear it all. He was an Observer and in the early days of WWII the Observer was often the captain of the aircraft, having been trained as a pilot. At that time I knew I didn't have any spare cash for a restoration project so just asked to be allowed a "look-see" and they were accommodating. Best wishes Was it 1940 by any chance. All i know is that Uffz Wemhoner survived and ended up as a POW. It impacted at Shinewater Marsh, Hampden Park exploding violently and apparently blasting a massive crater in the soft soil. The wireless operator, Gefreiter Edmund Ernst baled out. Shot down by 2 Spitfires (flown by Sqdn Ldr J.S. Yes, there must have been a crowd of souvenir hunters on the first day. While living in Kent I got to know an ex Coldstream Guards officer who had been posted to Berlin shortly after Germany’s surrender. Does anyone have info on the crash of an Albemarle in the fields just below the Westbury White Horse in Wiltshire. Tom has no passed away. First surface-to-air missile deployed by the Soviet Union. Doodlebugs and Rockets by local historian Bob Ogley is a useful source. If he also came from a crash many miles away, that might show Chartham accepted burials from some distance away, thus reinforcing (but not proving beyond doubt) the 4 COULD be from Hampshire. “Coded PH-P, Shot down by an Intruder during a night training flight and crashed 0110 4th Mar between Stockwith and Blyton, two villages 3 miles NW and NE respectively from Gainsborough. Does anyone know about this crash??? Hi. Likewise, I used to bicycle to friends in Hammerwood along a long disused driveway to Hammerwood Park (large mansion) and believe I probably rode over the runway of an advanced landing airstrip, with out any knowledge until 45 years later!! Local school children, including my 14 year old day, heard of the crash and were soon on it the next morning. let me know. Cheshire. Will take a look Adam. Hi – I am trying to find the location and the type of plane in which W/O Robert L. Double DFM., aged just 22, was killed on May 18th 1944. I doubt it helps any but you can see if you wish. They might be able to help. But 234 were in 10 Group, so why buried in 11 Groups area? It was published in 1994 and states that parts of the aircraft are/were still being discovered in the fields and hedgerows where the bomber crashed even then. For 12 years or so I lived right next door to the little hamlet of Hammerwood and never knew of the crash! Ju 88 shot down by two Hurricanes, resulting in its crash near Winchester, Hants, in Battle of Britain. So, nothing concrete at this point but the stories of seeing a pilot parachute from a crashing aircraft will have been widely reported at the time, these kids either seeing them happen or talk to other kids who saw them happen. Your memory of the exact spot is interesting, but I have not been able to find any air crashes at Holmes Chapel from around that time. Hi Paul Marshall, Typically groups of documents such as this are scattered to the wind so getting a clear picture of other missions/ losses becomes more difficult to pull together a comprehensive picture. Think I have found it Kay, details from page linked below; This German bomber was attacked by a Mosquito from 29 Squadron crewed by Flight Lieutenant S. F. Hodsman and Warrant Officer A. F. Monger. I have shown some photos of possibley that aircraft. I will let you know what transpires. There is also a map but not much use in identifiying exact locations The detail is from page 30 bottom left hand side paragraph “On the night of the 8th May” etc, the photographs are on page 32. However, searching instead for Gefr. Where Instood within a few inches of the remains of that plane that nearly hit my mother 75 years earlier . Twyford is not far, so it could be the the location of the the crash site. My late father Vincent Place was rear gunner lancs I have been told his aircraft crashed on a training flight in Snowdonia only him and the pilot survived 1943/44 I would be great full if you have any info on this as I can’t find any info on his war records any where thank you, Hi Mark, have you any more details at all? Warm Regards, Keith Williams. There was so much debris and military junk in general left around Eastbourne, even up to the early 1950s, that nobody would have been much interested in our fragment. Peter Ayerst followed in shortly behind them and his spitfire scored a direct hit to its engines causing the Heinkel to decend rapidly. That happened the day before my mum’s 8th birthday. I have an entry in a ‘crash diary’ that says exactly this… At some point during the Battle of Britain his dad’s battery had downed a Ju88, not only had they downed it but they had jumped in a truck & raced to the crash site to lift some trophies before the army sealed off the site. I remember visiting the he 111 on Cairnsmore of fleet. On August 30th 1940 a Heinkel 111 Group Markings A1_CL Crashed in Lifstan Way Southend On Sea,Essex 3 Crew Died and a Lady Died while Tripping over and Passed Away Going to hER Anderson Shelter , Iam Trying to Find Out What Happened To The Pilot Helmut Gall(uterofizier)? The replies seem to be about a crash at Friston, and I found another referring to a Luftwaffe crash at Seaford Golf Club. But a friend from the Stirling society is a doubtful they are of a Stirling crash. Feel free to add your photos etc here if you wish or add a link to your page? I have found another portrait online, slightly better quality. Hi my name is Clive Sweet. It is not unlikely as there were a number of aircraft which crashed taking off and landing at RAF Cranage. On the 28/29th April 1943 was a hugh 207 aircraft force on a ” gardening radish” mine laying In the school back yard, large aircraft-hangar-like buildings were constructed to house the fire engines and personnel. I don’t know if anyone can point me in the right direction. It looked like a miniature submarine in size and shape, badly damaged and it seemed to be compartmented. It is said a Luftwaffe aircraft, said to be a Dornier, crashed near (in a field behind, so very close) the village during WW2. We will never know … perhaps just a detail of a bygone historical Battle of Britain incident.. Move on, Davey-Boy! I’m new to these sites but wonder if anyone can help me. Ian. While he was traning another pilot. Lamberti, Feldwebelz Raab. Then if its not already been done I’ll probably try to do a local article for the parish magazine and then a proper on-line one too. Also I think that no deliberate effort should be made to find his remains however if they are found they should be removed and given a proper burial and or a memorial with a service placed on the crash site. I believe(?) The Gypsum Mines are/were at Mountfield (not Mount Field) which is about 3 miles north west of Battle on the A21 London Hastings road. However, there are 12 volumes, so without the date it would mean trawling through all of them, page by page! Flights MZ633 and N1687 collided mid air during unauthorised flying formation. My mother told me when I was a child that when I was born in Farnborough Hospital 26th August 1942 a ‘doodlebug’ either hit the hospital or exploded nearby. He took me to the site in the sixties and its now a public park and as far as we know are still buried there. To me That is by far the spookiest feeling I have ever experienced, Standing beside the very engine that had buried itself and its pilot into the field just yards from my Mother all those years earlier. HI I thought it was the other side of the village not actually by the gibbet? At present, have no details as to year/date of crash, aircraft type,unit or no of crew/casualties, so this may be a ‘non-starter’ best consigned to realms of rumour. Maybe someone might see this and get in touch if they have any info. Apparently it already on fire and on impact it cartwheeled so a real mess and not much left after the fire was put out. If you have any photos, it would be good to add them here. Hope this helps and fills in some of the gaps! But I’d be very interested to see that claim proved wrong! I believe on 23rd Sept 1940 the Luftwaffe sent over 200 ME109’s in the morning, that were intercepted by various Hurricanes & Spitfires. 8/JG26 4+1 Isle of Grain pilot Uff Arnold Kupper I would love to see it. by Army truck on 21st and after these were removed, 11 Group was left with the task of burying the (now unknown) airmen, which they did on 22nd August 1940 in Grave O74. But, the question remains: if it wasn’t from an aircraft, and since there seemed to have been no kind of meaningful activity in that area, how did it come to be there? And there is a reference to a German aircraft being shot down in the sea at Seaford but not found anything yet matching your description. From Burgess and Saunders books of aircraft actions over the county Sussex I can find a 2 seater exotic Messerschmitt 410 that crashed nearby on 9th Nov 1943 but this is on the other side of Willingdon. I work for the local council and would seek to put some sort of memorial up should it be located on the part of the heath that we manage. in JU.88 Date of crash/deaths is 29 April 1943. Hi Steve, I have looked in the books I own but can find no reference to it. As mentioned in email, there is one internet source with a similar photo which states this was probably taken around early November 1940 at Botwell Green and that it is a He-111 (which it clearly is) that had been shot down and put on display. But you don’t know that, so it’s understandable that you should ask me where I am up to. If I find out anything further, I will drop you a line. Thanks …. I did wonder if stories might be getting mixed up over time? The plane then crashed into woods at bottom of their garden. My father recalls being “saved” by a German plane that deliberately crashed into trees to avoid him and his friends playing in a park in Didcot, now Oxfordshire but at the time Berkshire. Of the 5 crew, 4 survived including the pilot. Looking for the exact location of RAF 78 SQN Halifax BIII MZ311 which crashed on Cleeve Hill in a quarry 4 miles NE of Cheltenham, Gloucester in the early hours of 26 August 1944 after a mining sortie off the French Coast. I will dig them out and see if mention of the 410 was made. F/S B.V.Mowan Thank you He says the crash site presents a “large discoloured patch of soil” following the fire as the Wellington was still carrying its bombs, apparently? Needham could find no more to confirm the story. They are eye-witness accounts of two crashes I witnessed. I also discovered that one of the first V2’s fired in anger exploded over Rotherfield killing 6 rabbits! I am a bit of a broken record on this subject, but the chances are it would end up somewhere else. Is it available? If ‘my’ four Germans were aviators, they might have been shot down on such a mission. Thanks. The Adobe does sound like a discription from what has been handed down but I have an open mind Hi Dave, Ian might have some more info from the Luftwaffe Crash archive volumes but the source I am using is “Bombers over Sussex 1943-45” by Burgess and Saunders (Middleton Press) as my reference. Or bodies washed ashore – but why bury them so far inland? Three other crew members all landed safely on fields below Cradle Hill near Rathfinny Farm, plane crashed near Seaford. Apparently it crashed just North of the Main Railway line to the east of Westbury Station Not far off the Ham road. Two other 17s ditched in the Channel and their crews were picked up by the Kriegsmarine. LT(jg) Brian S. DeHaan, the pilot of the second aircraft, was unable to eject and was killed in the crash. There was a lot of debris scattered around the site and we were prevented from getting any closer to the wreckage owing to a police cordon. Thank you very much! Nigel McCrery 07969-205893 BBC TV. Can anyone identify this crash and help us find more information or records to put on display in the village? Any help would be appreciated, Our uncles were killed in the same crash.Family lore says the aircraft (possibly L4323) was attempting a spiral manoeuvre before crashing. The Heinkel 111 crashed there near Cefn Road in Wrexham. She does not know anything about any subsequent exhumations. good luck in identifying their final resting places. Stuart. horrible sight for anyone to witness especially a young woman in her twenties … Her Brother made a ‘ cross ‘ out of some farm material painted it white and took it to the hole in the ground and placed it against some nearby bushes, It was there for many years. Personally I am against the practice of digging where there may be human remains, unless done with extreme care and respect. Am a bit tied up with work but will see if I can get some more detail and photos to you next week. Plane stalled on approach. So we know roughly when this was. He and 2 others ran to rescue the crew but sadly they ran into an enemy mine field, he was killed and the others were wounded, I would like to know if possible? After uprooting two trees it bounced four times along the ground and broke into many pieces, which were spread over an area of about half-a-mile. What’s just as strangely coincidental looking at your website is that I was born in Bury and have also been to Berlin before the Wall came down where I took lots of photo’s of Die Mauer, Checkpoint Charlie and had a great time with my Dad goon baiting the East Germans in their towers. It must have belly-anded somewhere south of Winchester and was probably a prototype that flew from Supermarines at Eastleigh airport near Southampton. 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